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Negroes with Guns - Part 2
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Industrial Development Coalition. Tax exemptions and incentives to corporations from the North who were not hiring Black people – taxation without representation. Integration of schools in Monroe. No buses to Black schools so Black children had to walk long distances even though there were white schools a few blocks from their homes. Early experiences of the Freedom Riders. Felt very comfortable in Monroe. Did not have any conflicts with the white people in the town. Monroe whites attack picket lines. Provided new understanding of conditions to Freedom Riders. RFW advised them that it was okay to be pacifist but to beware that being openly pacifist can open up the group to violent attacks. Friday before fleeing Monroe (August 25, 1961), 10 year old boy Prentiss Robinson beaten by 3 white men in town, 3 Freedom Riders attacked in the next county – one escapes by running into the woods but went missing. Law enforcement was asked to assist in finding him to avoid potential violence against him by anti-Freedom Riders, but no assistance. Freedom Riders request protection. RFW brings demands to governor’s aide – Hugh B. Cannon. Freedom Riders are threatened by white racists. Sheriff’s department brings over 5000 white racists into the town to fight the Freedom Riders. On Sunday, August 27, 1961 the Freedom Riders were beaten and jailed for picketing violations. Members of the community begin to arm themselves against the white racists. The Kidnapping Story. Phone call from the sheriff of Monroe threatening the arrival of state troopers to arrest and kill RFW. Decided to leave Monroe, not because they feared indictment, but for the family’s safety. Mae Mallory comes to Monroe with many others and media. Aim: show the “viciousness” happening in Monroe. Governor tells people coming in that they can trust in justice but Black people continually treated unjustly. Black man received a 5 year sentence for leering at a white woman. $1900 settlement for death of Black girls. Women and men attacked and beaten – assailants freed. US Justice Dept. spreads lies around the country about RFW.
Robert F Williams Interview with Marc Schleifer - Part 1
Date: 7/4/1962Call Number: RFW 032Format: CDProducers: Marc SchleiferCollection: Robert F. Williams!
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Pacifica Radio—Marc Schleifer Interview - Disc 1
Track 1
Why Cuba?: talks about trip through NYC and Canada
Track 2
Mentions going through western Canada and western US, through Mexico and eventually to Cuba. He thought in Cuba he wouldn’t be seen as a criminal, that the Cubans would understand the race problem he faced in the US, and that they would treat him with equality. The Cuban people had been sympathetic to the US Black struggle and had separated themselves from capitalism and the US.
Discussion of the media coverage of the Russian rifles found in the house of a member of his organization. RFW says this issue brought up as a smear tactic and to create hysteria. Says they also had WWII German rifles with Nazi insignia, rifles with Italian insignia, with British insignia, and with US insignia, because they got the guns from surplus stores and hardware stores across the US.
Discussion of the rifle club. Cops in Monroe gave the guns they confiscated from them to white mobs. Also mentions that the John Birch Society “minutemen” were using automatic weapons. None of their guns were automatics.
Track 3
Rifle club discussion continued. Says that if they hadn’t been armed in Monroe, there would have been mass bloodshed. Only the fact that they were armed kept the racists from attacking them.
Asking if he’s Communist or if ever a member of the CP? No and never been a member.
All movements for social justice and human rights branded communist (anyone who rises in dissent). Many people in his movement in South don’t know what Communism means. They don’t know Marx. They want to be liberated and they look for people who will lead.
Talks about racists as mentally ill and in need of shock treatment by Blacks & white allies. Resistance would have emerged even if Marx had never existed. His struggle is not a political movement, but a movement of people who resent oppression.
Track 4
On Non-violence as a tactic
Monroe is symbolic of a new attitude and era of new Black American
The tactic of non-violence will continue, but any struggle for liberation must be flexible and incorporate many strategies. The average Black is not a pacifist and has never been a pacifist. If you doubt that, just slap one and you’ll see.
Is RFW a Black Nationalist?
Another label. He has been denied the right to enter the mainstream of US, so most of his energy goes to the most oppressed class—Blacks.
Track 5
He prefers to think of himself as an Internationalist. There is a single struggle for liberation, although the struggles for his own people first.
White society is white nationalist society.
What does he intend to do in the future?
Continue what he did in NC, but on a more intensive scale. In NC he had to wage a local, limited battle. Now that he’s in exile, he’s been forced into a greater battlefield. Instead of a local campaign, he will take on an international campaign for liberation of Afro-Americans and oppressed people everywhere and unity with Latin Americans, Asians, Africans, and Afro-Americans. He wants to increase awareness about race conditions in US. The international community shocked at actual conditions.
Track 6
Campaign for Black Liberation in Cuba
Petition campaign among workers, students, officials
Wants to arouse people of the whole world to fight for justice in kidnapping allegations.
Talks about prison conditions in NC. Compares them to the Dark Ages.
Talks about the hypocrisy of the US and how the whole world resents the treatment of Afro. Americans.
Track 7
His exile is an exile forced by punitive action because he is a freedom fighter. His kids are suffering, being forced from their native land. He hopes to get international support for his case.
More on RFW’s future work
He hopes to do lots of writing, speaking, and broadcasting to help raise consciousness about anti-Black repression.
He hopes to reflect evil inherent in racist US and help US see itself as foreigners see them—as hypocrites.
Those who scream, “war,” those who scream, “better red than dead,” are fanatics.
He hopes to provide institutions to undo the effects of racism—to undo the damage done.
Robert F Williams Interview with Marc Schleifer Part 1
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Pacifica Radio - Marc Schleifer interview Track 1 *7min - repression against them designed to crush the human rights movement…, leaving to Cuba (to 9min) Track 2 defends against Soviet weapons found in the community, lots about the minutemen, JBS (John Birch Society) being protected by the U.S. government Track 3 * 2 min "if we had not been armed in Monroe (to 4 min) Q- are you a communist? * *(4:15) ...not a communist, but every humanitarian movement in the u.s. is branded as communistic *6 min "people want to be liberated...Blacks rebelled long before Marx or Marxism" *7:30 "Blacks need not be told (by Marxists) that racial opression is wrong (to 8:11) 9:35 white allies movement branded as communist not true 10:37 nature of people to resist opression 11 Monroe as lesson & symbol of new era Track 4 there will be more racial explosions 0:57 opressor in us...more militant movement, non-violence will continue, but any struggle is flexible, not only one method of struggle *2min when fascism comes, non-violence is suicidal *4:40 average Afro-American is not a pacifist *5 min nonviolence is a tactic that we approve of, but... 6min soon the forces of opression are going to learn the hard way 7:30 Black nationalism? label to attack Blacks *8:20 I am an Afro-American 9min movement not excluding whites Track 5 *00 I am an internationalist 3 min bring attention to race problem throughout the world 7 mineven the pet cemetary was segregated, Klan leaders = preachers 11min stupidity of Jim Crow Track 6 2:50 people of the world join in the quest for justice Track 7 1min fellowship with the world
Negroes with Guns - Part 2
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Industrial Development Coalition. Tax exemptions and incentives to corporations from the North who were not hiring Black people – taxation without representation. Integration of schools in Monroe. No buses to Black schools so Black children had to walk long distances even though there were white schools a few blocks from their homes. Early experiences of the Freedom Riders. Felt very comfortable in Monroe. Did not have any conflicts with the white people in the town. Monroe whites attack picket lines. Provided new understanding of conditions to Freedom Riders. RFW advised them that it was okay to be pacifist but to beware that being openly pacifist can open up the group to violent attacks. Friday before fleeing Monroe (August 25, 1961), 10 year old boy Prentiss Robinson beaten by 3 white men in town, 3 Freedom Riders attacked in the next county – one escapes by running into the woods but went missing. Law enforcement was asked to assist in finding him to avoid potential violence against him by anti-Freedom Riders, but no assistance. Freedom Riders request protection. RFW brings demands to governor’s aide – Hugh B. Cannon. Freedom Riders are threatened by white racists. Sheriff’s department brings over 5000 white racists into the town to fight the Freedom Riders. On Sunday, August 27, 1961 the Freedom Riders were beaten and jailed for picketing violations. Members of the community begin to arm themselves against the white racists. The Kidnapping Story. Phone call from the sheriff of Monroe threatening the arrival of state troopers to arrest and kill RFW. Decided to leave Monroe, not because they feared indictment, but for the family’s safety. Mae Mallory comes to Monroe with many others and media. Aim: show the “viciousness” happening in Monroe. Governor tells people coming in that they can trust in justice but Black people continually treated unjustly. Black man received a 5 year sentence for leering at a white woman. $1900 settlement for death of Black girls. Women and men attacked and beaten – assailants freed. US Justice Dept. spreads lies around the country about RFW.
Same as RFW 030
Robert F Williams Interview with Marc Schleifer - Part 1
Date: 5/31/1962Call Number: RFW 051Format: CDProducers: Marc SchleiferCollection: Robert F. Williams!
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Pacifica Radio—Marc Schleifer Interview - Disc 1
Track 1
Why Cuba?: talks about trip through NYC and Canada
Track 2
Mentions going through western Canada and western US, through Mexico and eventually to Cuba. He thought in Cuba he wouldn’t be seen as a criminal, that the Cubans would understand the race problem he faced in the US, and that they would treat him with equality. The Cuban people had been sympathetic to the US Black struggle and had separated themselves from capitalism and the US.
Discussion of the media coverage of the Russian rifles found in the house of a member of his organization. RFW says this issue brought up as a smear tactic and to create hysteria. Says they also had WWII German rifles with Nazi insignia, rifles with Italian insignia, with British insignia, and with US insignia, because they got the guns from surplus stores and hardware stores across the US.
Discussion of the rifle club. Cops in Monroe gave the guns they confiscated from them to white mobs. Also mentions that the John Birch Society “minutemen” were using automatic weapons. None of their guns were automatics.
Track 3
Rifle club discussion continued. Says that if they hadn’t been armed in Monroe, there would have been mass bloodshed. Only the fact that they were armed kept the racists from attacking them.
Asking if he’s Communist or if ever a member of the CP? No and never been a member.
All movements for social justice and human rights branded communist (anyone who rises in dissent). Many people in his movement in South don’t know what Communism means. They don’t know Marx. They want to be liberated and they look for people who will lead.
Talks about racists as mentally ill and in need of shock treatment by Blacks & white allies. Resistance would have emerged even if Marx had never existed. His struggle is not a political movement, but a movement of people who resent oppression.
Track 4
On Non-violence as a tactic
Monroe is symbolic of a new attitude and era of new Black American
The tactic of non-violence will continue, but any struggle for liberation must be flexible and incorporate many strategies. The average Black is not a pacifist and has never been a pacifist. If you doubt that, just slap one and you’ll see.
Is RFW a Black Nationalist?
Another label. He has been denied the right to enter the mainstream of US, so most of his energy goes to the most oppressed class—Blacks.
Track 5
He prefers to think of himself as an Internationalist. There is a single struggle for liberation, although the struggles for his own people first.
White society is white nationalist society.
What does he intend to do in the future?
Continue what he did in NC, but on a more intensive scale. In NC he had to wage a local, limited battle. Now that he’s in exile, he’s been forced into a greater battlefield. Instead of a local campaign, he will take on an international campaign for liberation of Afro-Americans and oppressed people everywhere and unity with Latin Americans, Asians, Africans, and Afro-Americans. He wants to increase awareness about race conditions in US. The international community shocked at actual conditions.
Track 6
Campaign for Black Liberation in Cuba
Petition campaign among workers, students, officials
Wants to arouse people of the whole world to fight for justice in kidnapping allegations.
Talks about prison conditions in NC. Compares them to the Dark Ages.
Talks about the hypocrisy of the US and how the whole world resents the treatment of Afro. Americans.
Track 7
His exile is an exile forced by punitive action because he is a freedom fighter. His kids are suffering, being forced from their native land. He hopes to get international support for his case.
More on RFW’s future work
He hopes to do lots of writing, speaking, and broadcasting to help raise consciousness about anti-Black repression.
He hopes to reflect evil inherent in racist US and help US see itself as foreigners see them—as hypocrites.
Those who scream, “war,” those who scream, “better red than dead,” are fanatics.
He hopes to provide institutions to undo the effects of racism—to undo the damage done.
Same as RFW 032
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