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Panel Discussion on the crisis of racism PART 2
Date: 5/1/1962Call Number: KP 095Format: Cass A & BProducers: Public Affairs Department of WBAI, and Pacifica RadioProgram: “The Crisis of Racism”Collection: Black Liberation
A Continuation of KP 094, A panel discussion on "The Crisis of Racism", with Malcolm X, James Farmer, and William Worthy. Moderated by Murray Kempton. Conclusion and Question and Answer period - Malcolm X answers questions from the audience about racism in America. James Farmer, the National Director of CORE (Congress of Racial Equality), speaks about the 500 years of racial oppression in America. Malcolm X speaks about being ready to die for liberation, and about how the American colonists were also labeled revolutionaries. Finally there's a speech by James Farmer about CORE and the responsibilities of the blacks today to do something and take action against white racism.
Robert F Williams Interview with Marc Schleifer - Part 1
Date: 7/4/1962Call Number: RFW 032Format: CDProducers: Marc SchleiferCollection: Robert F. Williams!
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Pacifica Radio—Marc Schleifer Interview - Disc 1
Track 1
Why Cuba?: talks about trip through NYC and Canada
Track 2
Mentions going through western Canada and western US, through Mexico and eventually to Cuba. He thought in Cuba he wouldn’t be seen as a criminal, that the Cubans would understand the race problem he faced in the US, and that they would treat him with equality. The Cuban people had been sympathetic to the US Black struggle and had separated themselves from capitalism and the US.
Discussion of the media coverage of the Russian rifles found in the house of a member of his organization. RFW says this issue brought up as a smear tactic and to create hysteria. Says they also had WWII German rifles with Nazi insignia, rifles with Italian insignia, with British insignia, and with US insignia, because they got the guns from surplus stores and hardware stores across the US.
Discussion of the rifle club. Cops in Monroe gave the guns they confiscated from them to white mobs. Also mentions that the John Birch Society “minutemen” were using automatic weapons. None of their guns were automatics.
Track 3
Rifle club discussion continued. Says that if they hadn’t been armed in Monroe, there would have been mass bloodshed. Only the fact that they were armed kept the racists from attacking them.
Asking if he’s Communist or if ever a member of the CP? No and never been a member.
All movements for social justice and human rights branded communist (anyone who rises in dissent). Many people in his movement in South don’t know what Communism means. They don’t know Marx. They want to be liberated and they look for people who will lead.
Talks about racists as mentally ill and in need of shock treatment by Blacks & white allies. Resistance would have emerged even if Marx had never existed. His struggle is not a political movement, but a movement of people who resent oppression.
Track 4
On Non-violence as a tactic
Monroe is symbolic of a new attitude and era of new Black American
The tactic of non-violence will continue, but any struggle for liberation must be flexible and incorporate many strategies. The average Black is not a pacifist and has never been a pacifist. If you doubt that, just slap one and you’ll see.
Is RFW a Black Nationalist?
Another label. He has been denied the right to enter the mainstream of US, so most of his energy goes to the most oppressed class—Blacks.
Track 5
He prefers to think of himself as an Internationalist. There is a single struggle for liberation, although the struggles for his own people first.
White society is white nationalist society.
What does he intend to do in the future?
Continue what he did in NC, but on a more intensive scale. In NC he had to wage a local, limited battle. Now that he’s in exile, he’s been forced into a greater battlefield. Instead of a local campaign, he will take on an international campaign for liberation of Afro-Americans and oppressed people everywhere and unity with Latin Americans, Asians, Africans, and Afro-Americans. He wants to increase awareness about race conditions in US. The international community shocked at actual conditions.
Track 6
Campaign for Black Liberation in Cuba
Petition campaign among workers, students, officials
Wants to arouse people of the whole world to fight for justice in kidnapping allegations.
Talks about prison conditions in NC. Compares them to the Dark Ages.
Talks about the hypocrisy of the US and how the whole world resents the treatment of Afro. Americans.
Track 7
His exile is an exile forced by punitive action because he is a freedom fighter. His kids are suffering, being forced from their native land. He hopes to get international support for his case.
More on RFW’s future work
He hopes to do lots of writing, speaking, and broadcasting to help raise consciousness about anti-Black repression.
He hopes to reflect evil inherent in racist US and help US see itself as foreigners see them—as hypocrites.
Those who scream, “war,” those who scream, “better red than dead,” are fanatics.
He hopes to provide institutions to undo the effects of racism—to undo the damage done.
Robert F Williams Interview with Marc Schleifer Part 1
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Pacifica Radio - Marc Schleifer interview Track 1 *7min - repression against them designed to crush the human rights movement…, leaving to Cuba (to 9min) Track 2 defends against Soviet weapons found in the community, lots about the minutemen, JBS (John Birch Society) being protected by the U.S. government Track 3 * 2 min "if we had not been armed in Monroe (to 4 min) Q- are you a communist? * *(4:15) ...not a communist, but every humanitarian movement in the u.s. is branded as communistic *6 min "people want to be liberated...Blacks rebelled long before Marx or Marxism" *7:30 "Blacks need not be told (by Marxists) that racial opression is wrong (to 8:11) 9:35 white allies movement branded as communist not true 10:37 nature of people to resist opression 11 Monroe as lesson & symbol of new era Track 4 there will be more racial explosions 0:57 opressor in us...more militant movement, non-violence will continue, but any struggle is flexible, not only one method of struggle *2min when fascism comes, non-violence is suicidal *4:40 average Afro-American is not a pacifist *5 min nonviolence is a tactic that we approve of, but... 6min soon the forces of opression are going to learn the hard way 7:30 Black nationalism? label to attack Blacks *8:20 I am an Afro-American 9min movement not excluding whites Track 5 *00 I am an internationalist 3 min bring attention to race problem throughout the world 7 mineven the pet cemetary was segregated, Klan leaders = preachers 11min stupidity of Jim Crow Track 6 2:50 people of the world join in the quest for justice Track 7 1min fellowship with the world
Robert F Williams Interview with Marc Schleifer - Part 1
Date: 5/31/1962Call Number: RFW 051Format: CDProducers: Marc SchleiferCollection: Robert F. Williams!
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Pacifica Radio—Marc Schleifer Interview - Disc 1
Track 1
Why Cuba?: talks about trip through NYC and Canada
Track 2
Mentions going through western Canada and western US, through Mexico and eventually to Cuba. He thought in Cuba he wouldn’t be seen as a criminal, that the Cubans would understand the race problem he faced in the US, and that they would treat him with equality. The Cuban people had been sympathetic to the US Black struggle and had separated themselves from capitalism and the US.
Discussion of the media coverage of the Russian rifles found in the house of a member of his organization. RFW says this issue brought up as a smear tactic and to create hysteria. Says they also had WWII German rifles with Nazi insignia, rifles with Italian insignia, with British insignia, and with US insignia, because they got the guns from surplus stores and hardware stores across the US.
Discussion of the rifle club. Cops in Monroe gave the guns they confiscated from them to white mobs. Also mentions that the John Birch Society “minutemen” were using automatic weapons. None of their guns were automatics.
Track 3
Rifle club discussion continued. Says that if they hadn’t been armed in Monroe, there would have been mass bloodshed. Only the fact that they were armed kept the racists from attacking them.
Asking if he’s Communist or if ever a member of the CP? No and never been a member.
All movements for social justice and human rights branded communist (anyone who rises in dissent). Many people in his movement in South don’t know what Communism means. They don’t know Marx. They want to be liberated and they look for people who will lead.
Talks about racists as mentally ill and in need of shock treatment by Blacks & white allies. Resistance would have emerged even if Marx had never existed. His struggle is not a political movement, but a movement of people who resent oppression.
Track 4
On Non-violence as a tactic
Monroe is symbolic of a new attitude and era of new Black American
The tactic of non-violence will continue, but any struggle for liberation must be flexible and incorporate many strategies. The average Black is not a pacifist and has never been a pacifist. If you doubt that, just slap one and you’ll see.
Is RFW a Black Nationalist?
Another label. He has been denied the right to enter the mainstream of US, so most of his energy goes to the most oppressed class—Blacks.
Track 5
He prefers to think of himself as an Internationalist. There is a single struggle for liberation, although the struggles for his own people first.
White society is white nationalist society.
What does he intend to do in the future?
Continue what he did in NC, but on a more intensive scale. In NC he had to wage a local, limited battle. Now that he’s in exile, he’s been forced into a greater battlefield. Instead of a local campaign, he will take on an international campaign for liberation of Afro-Americans and oppressed people everywhere and unity with Latin Americans, Asians, Africans, and Afro-Americans. He wants to increase awareness about race conditions in US. The international community shocked at actual conditions.
Track 6
Campaign for Black Liberation in Cuba
Petition campaign among workers, students, officials
Wants to arouse people of the whole world to fight for justice in kidnapping allegations.
Talks about prison conditions in NC. Compares them to the Dark Ages.
Talks about the hypocrisy of the US and how the whole world resents the treatment of Afro. Americans.
Track 7
His exile is an exile forced by punitive action because he is a freedom fighter. His kids are suffering, being forced from their native land. He hopes to get international support for his case.
More on RFW’s future work
He hopes to do lots of writing, speaking, and broadcasting to help raise consciousness about anti-Black repression.
He hopes to reflect evil inherent in racist US and help US see itself as foreigners see them—as hypocrites.
Those who scream, “war,” those who scream, “better red than dead,” are fanatics.
He hopes to provide institutions to undo the effects of racism—to undo the damage done.
Same as RFW 032
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