[Ppnews] ‘Don’t interact, don’t talk, they are not humans’ - Gitmo guard's basic orders
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‘Don’t interact, don’t talk, they are not humans’ - Gitmo guard's
basic orders
May 22, 2013 09:2
http://rt.com/news/guantanamo-guard-islam-torture-608/
One of the methods used to extract information from Muslim inmates in
Guantanamo was to apply sexual interrogation techniques, Terry
Holdbrooks, former guard at the camp has told RT.
Such a degradation methods, the former US soldier said, were used on
innocent men. Holdbrooks, who wrote a book about GITMO prisoners
<http://rt.com/news/guantanamo-guard-islam-torture-608/%20www.gtmobook.com>,
claims that it is the inmates’ religious perseverance in the face of
pain and humiliation made him convinced that US was not fighting for the
right cause.
*RT:* /What did you experience at the detention camp that changed you?/
*Terry Holdbrooks:* To be honest with you I would not even know where to
begin with that. Initially seeing religion practiced the way that the
detainees practice Islam is a really life changing experience in itself.
I have not really seen any kind of any serious devotion, the faith like
that growing up in the US.
The torture and information extraction methods that we used certainly
created a great deal of doubt and questions in my mind to whether or not
this was my America. But when I thought about what we were doing there
and how we go about doing it, it did not seem like the America I signed
up to defend. It did not seem like the America I grew up in, I grew to
believe in. And that in itself was a very disillusioning experience.
There was a great deal of personal growth that took there as well.
*RT:* /Could you describe the relationship between the guards and
detainees at Guantanamo back when you were serving (and how has it
changed since then)?/
*TH:* I suppose that if we’re going to take a stroll down the memory
lane, Brandon Neely was there first. He was there when it was camp
x-ray. It was essentially dog cages, nothing more. It was dog kennels, I
suppose you can say. When I was there camp Delta was in full swing.
Delta housed about 612 men that would be the general population of the
camps.
*RT:* /Were you given any orders as how to treat the inmates?/
*TH:* Our interaction with the detainees was such that we were told not
to talk to them, not to treat them as humans, to not engage in
conversation with them whatsoever. And the army sort of made a mistake
by allowing somebody who is inclined to sociology and to studying people
by leaving me with individuals from all over the world unsupervised for
eight hours. I was very low in rank so I was delegated all the work,
while those who were higher in rank were sitting in the air-conditioned
shacks, nurturing their hangovers. So the instructions I was given were
simple – don’t interact, don’t talk, they are not humans.
*RT:* /There have been reports of torture and other human rights
violations happening at the prison camp. Could you tell us what you saw?/
*TH:* We can begin with experiences I had the pleasure of having.
Myself, Eric Sarr and another Guantanamo guard were involved in this.
Eric was a linguist and he was working with an interrogator.
We took the detainee into interrogation and throughout the interrogation
the interrogator took off her clothing. She essentially gave the
detainee a lap dance, tried to arouse him and then let him believe that
he had menstrual blood on him. We then took the detainee back to his
cell and were told that he was not allowed to have shower privileges nor
fresh water for days. The idea behind this being that if he could not
clean himself he would not be able to pray, if he could not pray, he
could not practice Islam. Essentially it was an idea to break him down
spiritually.
Omar Khadr and a number of other detainees, I remember hearing just few
moments ago Shaker Aamer, they were privileged to something we called
the frequent flyer program, where we would essentially move them every
two hours. Whether we were moving them from camp Delta to camp Echo or
moving them from Bravo block to Charlie block, be it a little move or a
big move, the idea is that every two hours they would be moved and they
would not be able to sleep. This was essentially to wear down their
psyche and make them more probable to give out their information during
interrogation.
But what has questioned me ever since I first saw it, it seemed that
most of these men were innocent and as numbers are starting to show,
we’ve sent over 600 of them home, so they must have been innocent; if we
knew that we were purchasing men that were innocent, why were we trying
to interrogate innocent men? What were we hoping to get from them?
Some of the tactics I saw practiced in Guantanamo, I just want to never
want to relive again and then a great deal of regret takes place and
then I did not take the most productive use of some years after
Guantanamo. I tried to drown away some of those memories and that is
something you cannot do. You have to confront it.
/Holdbrooks has written a book, entitled "Traitor"
<http://www.gtmobook.com/>, to be published in the Summer of 2013/
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