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an </span><a
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with Drop Site News, a senior Hamas official
said that the movement will not capitulate to
any demands from Israel or the U.S. to lay down
its weapons and vowed that Hamas will reject any
temporary ceasefire deal that does not include a
clear path to a total Israeli withdrawal from
Gaza and an end to the genocide.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">\u201cNo
need for a short-term ceasefire,\u201d said Osama
Hamdan, one of the longest serving senior
officials within Hamas. \u201cWhat the Israelis are
offering is: We will give you a ceasefire for a
short while and then we will come back to kill you
again. So what's the idea of giving you food for
12, 40 days, two weeks or three weeks, and then
coming back to kill you? It means that you endorse
the genocide and you accept that for your own
people.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">It
has been two months since the first phase of the
Gaza ceasefire deal, signed in January between
Hamas and Israel, came to an end and Israel
imposed a full spectrum blockade\u2014the longest in
recent history. Since March 2, Israel has
prevented all food, water, medicine, fuel, and
other supplies from reaching the besieged enclave,
plunging Gaza into the worst humanitarian crisis
of the 19-month war, according to the UN. On March
18, Israel resumed its scorched earth bombing,
killing more than 2,400 Palestinians, mostly women
and children. During this period, regional
mediators Qatar and Egypt have failed to convince
Israel to return to the original three-phase
framework, which stipulated a complete withdrawal
of Israeli forces from Gaza and the declaration of
a permanent ceasefire.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Instead,
Israel has issued a series of sweeping new demands
as a condition for any halt to its genocidal
operations. Central among these are the total
demilitarization of the Gaza Strip, the exiling of
Hamas leaders, and the removal of Hamas as the
governing authority in Gaza.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">\u201cI
believe the Israelis don\u2019t believe in any solution
with the Palestinians. When they talk about
disarming the Palestinians, it's their idea of
killing the hope of the Palestinians to be
liberated. And then if they want to push them out,
the Palestinians will have no way to defend
themselves," Hamdan said, referring to Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu\u2019s stated plan
for a \u201cfinal stage\u201d to the genocide that includes
forcibly removing the population from Gaza. \u201cWhen
they talk about disarming the Palestinians\u2014not
only Hamas, the Palestinians\u2014it means that they
want the Palestinians to surrender. And when you
surrender, you have to accept the will of the
occupier.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
said that Hamas was surprised to witness Egyptian
mediators present an Israeli plan that included
terms about total demilitarization of Gaza. \u201cWhy
were we astonished to see them talking about this
issue? Because it's an Israeli issue, and as a
mediator, you are not supposed just to admit any
suggestion from the Israeli side. You have to deal
with that. You have to talk directly to the
Israelis [and say], \u2018This will not work,\u2019\u201d Hamdan
said. \u201cIf Hamas said we want Netanyahu to hand
[over] power and to give up Tel Aviv for the
Palestinians, for example, they will directly
answer, \u2018This will not happen.\u2019 Why [are they] not
talking to the Israelis in the same way?\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
said that Palestinians have both a moral
obligation and a legal mandate under international
law to employ armed resistance to fight an Israeli
occupation that has been repeatedly ruled illegal
in international courts and is condemned as a
system of apartheid by the world\u2019s leading human
rights organizations. \u201cYou can't talk about
de-weaponizing the nation who is under occupation,
while they are occupied by the most powerful army
in the region,\u201d he said. \u201cHamas did not invent the
resistance for Palestine. In fact, the
Palestinians resisted the British occupation and,
since then, the Israeli occupation for decades.
Talking about de-weaponizing the Palestinians, it
will not solve the problem. The new generation
will fight because you are oppressing the nation
all the time. So there is no option for the
Palestinians to get rid of this occupation without
the resistance, no other option.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamas
has repeatedly proposed arrangements to end the
occupation since the early 1990s, and Israel has
rejected them all. Last week, it dismissed Hamas\u2019s
most recent offer, which would have seen all
Israeli captives in Gaza returned to Israel as
part of a multi-year deal. \u201cThey have rejected it
and they may reject it another time, but this is
also an answer for the international community
when they keep asking the Palestinians, \u2018OK, how
can we solve the problem?\u2019\u201d Hamdan explained. \u201cYou
can't solve the problem by talking about the
security of Israel. You have to solve the problem
by talking about the rights of the Palestinians
who are giving you the option which can fit
exactly within international law, with the
international resolutions, which can solve the
problem and give the Palestinian people their
rights.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>In
the interview with Drop Site, Hamdan also
outlined Hamas\u2019s rationale for offering a five
to seven year truce with Israel, known as a </span><em>hudna</em><span>
in Arabic. \u201cThe main goal for this long term </span><em>hudna
</em><span>is that each side has to believe that
he will not be attacked by the other side, which
can at least generate a kind of security. And
it's a chance to build trust that there may be a
chance for a kind of stability and security,\u201d he
said. \u201cThat was the experience, for example, in
South Africa; it was the experience in Vietnam;
it was the experience with every situation of
occupation\u2014not only the Palestinian situation.
So we are still committed to a very serious
political idea, which is the long-term
ceasefire.\u201d</span></p>
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Does Not Want the U.S. Talking to Hamas</strong></p>
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<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Osama
Hamdan joined Hamas in 1992, a few years after the
group\u2019s founding, and has served as its
representative in Iran and Lebanon as well as its
chief of international relations. He was one of
the top advisers to Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh,
who was assassinated by Israel last summer in
Tehran. After October 7, 2023, Hamdan became a
regular fixture on Arabic language media,
conducting regular press briefings from Lebanon.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">In
the wide-ranging interview, Hamdan said that Hamas
believes the January ceasefire agreement would
have been unlikely had Donald Trump not won the
U.S. election. \u201cI think it helped. If Kamala
Harris won the elections, I think it would be the
same policy of the Biden administration policy,
which supported the Israelis totally\u2026 they [made]
themselves as a part of the war and the fight
against the Palestinians,\u201d he said. \u201cWe know that
the Trump people, they have done a good job in
order to make [the January ceasefire] happen. But
it's not enough. We have to be honest and serious,
it's not enough.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
rejected what he called an Israeli propaganda term
to describe what should happen in Gaza after the
war ends. \u201cThe Israelis, they have used this \u2018the
day after\u2019 term in order to convince everyone that
what will happen in Gaza [is] that they will take
over the situation within a few weeks and they
will get rid of the resistance and there will be
an issue of some people who are living on the land
of Gaza,\u201d he said. \u201cThere is a day after the
genocide stopped. And this day is supposed to be a
Palestinian day, a Palestinian national day,
because we have stopped the genocide and we have
to decide by ourselves as Palestinians what we are
supposed to do.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
said once a political solution is reached to end
the genocide, Hamas would be willing to relinquish
governance of Gaza to an independent body of
Palestinians or a technocratic committee. \u201cThere
was a suggestion from the Egyptian side to have a
committee of leaders, independent leaders, from
Gaza, to take control in Gaza for a while and then
we can go to general elections. We've said yes,
because if they were nationalist and they are
working for Gaza\u2019s benefit and the people\u2019s, why
not have them?,\u201d Hamdan said. He added that Hamas
and other Palestinian political parties had put
forward 40-45 names to the Palestinian Authority
as nominees for a 15-member body to assume control
of Gaza once Hamas formally steps down. They have
not received any answer.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">\u201cWe
are ready to handle the things to [assist] this
committee, knowing that if that was one of the
options which can help the Palestinians to get
through this massacre and this genocide, it's part
of our duty to do that,\u201d Hamdan said, adding that
Hamas supports holding democratic elections, not
just in Gaza but across all the territories of
historic Palestine.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
was one of two Hamas officials who led direct
talks with Donald Trump\u2019s special envoy on
hostages in late February. \u201cWhen the meetings with
Adam Boehler took place, there was a real
possibility [for a long term deal]. This is why
the Israelis were furious and they were angry,\u201d
Hamdan said. \u201cWe've talked about politics, not
only about the prisoner exchange issue. And I
believe he heard something he didn't expect to
hear from Hamas.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
and another senior Hamas official who participated
in the direct talks with Boehler described the
meetings as productive and diplomatic. They said
Boehler seemed genuinely interested in
understanding Hamas\u2019s position, both historically
and related to the ongoing negotiations. Since
those meetings, however, and the launch of an
Israeli smear campaign to portray Boehler as
having been duped by Hamas, there have been no
further direct talks.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">\u201cI
believe one of the reasons why the Israelis have
assassinated some of the Palestinian leaders was
because they have the chance to talk directly to
the United States,\u201d Hamdan contended. \u201cThey want
to prevent any kind of contact between the
Palestinian resistance and the United States
administration because they have a narrative that
those are terrorists.\u201d He said that the direct
talks with Boehler and other U.S. officials for
the first time circumvented Israeli control of the
narrative about Hamas. \u201cThe administration
discovered that they are freedom fighters and they
have a political narrative and they have a
political stand, and they are seeking to have a
political solution,\u201d Hamdan said. \u201cThis is what
the Israelis are trying to prevent.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">In
the talks, Bohler also raised the issue of Eden
Alexander, the dual U.S.-Israeli citizen who
enlisted in the Israeli military and was taken
captive by Palestinian fighters at the Israeli
military base where he was stationed on October 7,
2023. "He's an American citizen, but he was a
soldier in the Israeli army," Hamdan said. "Why is
he allowed to be a fighter or a soldier in another
army, not any other army, an army who occupies the
Palestinian lands, who was killing the Palestinian
people?"</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
added, \u201cYou want to guarantee that no Americans
will be held as prisoners because they were
soldiers in the Israeli army. So, let's prevent
the Israeli army from killing the Palestinians.
And that opened the door for a political talk. And
I respect that [Boehler] has the courage to talk
about this, to listen. He listened carefully.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Last
month, the spokesperson for the Qassam Brigades,
Abu Obeida, said they had lost contact with the
group holding Alexander after Israeli airstrikes
targeted the area where he was being held. Hamdan
and another senior Hamas official told Drop Site
that they have not received any updates on
Alexander's fate since contact was lost.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
and the other Hamas official told Drop Site that
the meetings with Boehler were meant to lead to
direct talks with Steve Witkoff, Trump\u2019s special
envoy to the Middle East and the administration\u2019s
lead negotiator. Hamas believes Israel succeeded
in derailing those meetings. \u201cWe expect more from
Trump\u2019s administration, not just to keep the
security of Israel, not just to listen to the
Israeli side. All the world, mainly the United
States administration, has to listen to the
Palestinians. You have to listen to their side of
the story,\u201d he said. \u201cYou can't solve it just by
listening to Netanyahu who is lying to his own
people, not only lying to the Americans or lying
to the Arabs, he's lying [to] his own people.\u201d</p>
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<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
also had sharp words for Palestinian Authority
President Mahmoud Abbas. In a televised April 23
speech before the Palestinian National Council,
the 89-year old leader called Hamas \u201csons of
dogs,\u201d and demanded the movement surrender its
weapons and release the Israeli captives. Hamdan
said that for the past 19 months Abbas has been
reserved in his denunciations of Israel\u2019s
genocidal war while attacking and denouncing the
Palestinian resistance. \u201cI believe he lost his
credibility as a Palestinian leader and he is not
anymore respected by the Palestinians,\u201d Hamdan
said. \u201cHe's just destroying his reputation and his
image. I don't know how his sons and grandsons
will walk among the Palestinian people after his
death.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
addressed the Palestinian Authority\u2019s
collaboration with Israel in its ongoing assault
on the occupied West Bank. He cited the example of
the Jenin refugee camp, where Palestinian
Authority security forces imposed a siege for 40
days, dismantled resistance cells and seized
weapons, clearing the way for an Israeli invasion
that lead to the destruction of over 600 homes.
More than 40,000 Palestinians have been forced
from their homes in the West Bank since January,
the largest displacement there since 1967. \u201cI
think the Israelis, their main goal is to take
over all the West Bank,\u201d he said. \u201cI believe they
will be mistaken if they felt for a while that the
Palestinian Authority will keep controlling the
situation. The people will resist.\u201d Hamdan
characterized Abbas\u2019s forces as akin to \u201csecurity
guards\u201d for the occupation, keeping watch over
Palestinians \u201cwho are supposed to live as slaves,\u201d
saying, \u201cNo one in the Palestinian Authority is
trying to say \u2018enough is enough.\u2019 They don't want
to resist.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
also blasted the recent appointment of Hussein
Al-Sheikh, a longtime member of Abbas's ruling
Fatah Party known for his close ties to Israel, as
vice president of the Palestine Liberation
Organization, saying it was evidence of Israeli
influence. Since 2007, Sheikh has served as the
head of the General Authority of Civil Affairs\u2014the
main body coordinating with Israeli forces
operating in the occupied West Bank. \u201cIf you heard
him talking in a closed room, you'd feel that you
are talking to an Israeli soldier,\u201d said Hamdan.
\u201cThat is not my words. It's the words of some
significant leaders of Fatah.\u201d The Israelis pushed
for Sheikh\u2019s appointment as Abbas\u2019s deputy and
likely successor, Hamdan alleged, because \u201cthey
know that he is willing by himself to handle this
dirty job on their own behalf.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamas\u2019s
official position since 2017 is that it would
accept what is commonly referred to as a \u201ctwo
state solution\u201d by Western leaders. The movement
has said that if the Palestinian people voted for
a state along the lines of the borders as they
existed prior to the June 1967 war and with East
Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital, Hamas would
not oppose it.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">\u201cI
think the Israelis have shown that they are not
willing to have even the two state solution, and
they are talking about what they have called the
final solution to get rid of the Palestinians.
According to those circumstances, everyone expects
this will not happen,\u201d Hamdan said, though he
added: \u201cI still think that there is a real
possibility for that, if the international
community wants to keep the order. Otherwise, I
think we will face a complete failure for the
international order and this will lead to more
complicated consequences, not [only] on the
Palestinian situation, but all over the world.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
said that if the world refuses to hold Israel
accountable for the Gaza genocide, it will have
far reaching implications. \u201cIf they have immunity,
it means that others can do the same thing in
several places in the world. What if that
happened? Some other superpowers, growing
superpowers in the world, have given this right to
small countries supported by those superpowers,\u201d
he said. \u201cI think we will turn the world to a kind
of, not a jungle, maybe worse than a jungle,
because even in the jungle, the animals, they kill
to eat but they don't kill more than this. But
when you commit a genocide, it's really a disaster
which cannot be explained by words or by saying,
\u2018Sorry, I have done this and I will not do it
again.\u2019\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><strong>If
a Political Solution Fails, the Resistance Will
Continue</strong></p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
rejected the characterization that Hamas is waging
a war against Israel because it is a Jewish state
and said this portrayal was aimed at undermining
the legitimate cause of liberation and self
determination. \u201cWe've said clearly, we are a
people under occupation. We are not fighting just
because we like to fight or it's a good idea to
fight others. We are not fighting the Israelis
because, for example, they are Jewish people. We
don't have a problem with the Jewish people,\u201d he
said. \u201cEven if a Muslim came to occupy my land, I
will fight him. It is not related to the religion.
It is related to being an occupier or not an
occupier.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Despite
reports in Israeli and some Arab media outlets
that Hamas indicated it would consider temporarily
storing its weapons in Gaza or handing them over
to a neutral third party, Hamdan said there have
been no formal talks about such a proposal. \u201cWhat
about the Israeli weapons? Are they going to store
their weapons, too? What is the meaning of storing
the weapons?\u201d he said. \u201cSuch an experience
happened in Northern Ireland. But there was a real
political arrangement, which was accepted by both
sides.\u201d Short of that, he said, Hamas will not
surrender its weapons until Palestinians achieve
full statehood. \u201cIf there was a Palestinian state,
those weapons would be handed to the Palestinian
government,\u201d he said. \u201cEven the [resistance]
fighters, they will turn to be part of the army or
the police of this government.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;"><span>Over
the weekend, Netanyahu vowed to intensify
Israeli attacks in the coming weeks and to
expand the army\u2019s ground operations inside Gaza.
On Monday, Israel\u2019s cabinet approved a plan to
seize large areas of the Gaza Strip where
Israeli forces would remain entrenched
indefinitely. Code-named Gideon's Chariots, the
operations would also reportedly include
forcibly displacing Palestinians into small
areas of southern Gaza. An Israeli security
official </span><a
href="https://substack.com/redirect/435fd517-8ce0-494d-a2b0-045b74c12a96?j=eyJ1IjoibHZwcGIifQ.9RIwWbE6EVIB7Jy8lfazxZKfps8R18neRGMKwOiqnRM"
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details of the plan were revealed as a pressure
campaign to force Hamas to accept a short term
truce agreement that would result in the release
of large numbers of Israeli captives without
agreeing to end the war.</span></p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">These
leaked proposals are directly linked to Donald
Trump\u2019s scheduled visit to the Middle East slated
to begin May 13. Trump will join a series of
summits with Arab leaders in Saudi Arabia, Qatar,
and the United Arab Emirates. There are
indications the U.S. is pushing Israel to enter
into a short-term truce with Hamas to serve as a
backdrop for Trump\u2019s trip and Israeli officials
said their threats to seize \u201call conquered areas\u201d
of Gaza were aimed at forcing Hamas into a deal
before Trump\u2019s trip.</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">In
the interview with Drop Site, conducted before the
Israeli plans were leaked, Hamdan was emphatic
that Hamas will not enter into any temporary
agreements that do not include a path to a
permanent ceasefire and an Israeli withdrawal from
Gaza. \u201cIs the United States administration and
President Trump seeking to have just a short-term
ceasefire or is he willing to have a permanent
ceasefire which may lead to a political solution?\u201d
Hamdan said. \u201c[Trump] has to make the choice,
whether to make the Israelis accept the long-term
ceasefire and to go to the political solution
which leads to a Palestinian independent,
sovereign state.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">The
alternative, Hamdan said, is indefinite war that
will continue to destabilize the region and impact
the rest of Trump\u2019s Middle East agenda. \u201cWe are
fighting to be liberated from the occupation. If
that can happen in a political way, this is good.
We will accept that, if it [happens] in a peaceful
way. We don't want to be killed. We don't like to
kill others. But if it doesn't happen in this way,
we will fight,\u201d Hamdan said. \u201cLet's talk about
liberating the Palestinians from the occupation.
Let's talk about the Israeli withdrawal from the
occupied Palestinian lands,\u201d he added. \u201cThis will
be the start of creating confidence and stability
after that. If this happened, it will be a very
good idea. If it doesn't happen, no one can give
up his weapons while he's being killed, tortured,
jailed.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">If
Trump actually wanted to achieve the release of
all Israeli captives and a swift end to the war,
Hamdan said, he could utilize the extensive levers
of U.S. influence over Netanyahu as Israel\u2019s
largest financial benefactor and arms supplier.
\u201cIt's not sufficient pressure. They know that they
can do that,\u201d he asserted. \u201cIf they said, \u2018OK, we
are not providing you with the new weapons,\u2019 I
think just saying that, it will show the Israelis
that the administration is serious and they have
to go to the ceasefire.\u201d</p>
<p
style="margin: 0 0 20px 0;color: rgb(54,55,55);line-height: 26px;font-size: 16px;">Hamdan
said that the ultimate responsibility for
confronting Israel's apartheid, occupation and war
of annihilation against the Palestinian people
rests on the international community. And how it
handles the fate of Palestine will reverberate for
generations to come. "The will of the Palestinians
to be liberated is still reserved after 70 years
of occupation and it will be until the
Palestinians can get rid of the occupation,"
Hamdan said. "It will be an important turn, not in
the Palestinian history, but I think in
international history, because it will express a
kind of balanced justice in the world. Otherwise,
I think it will be a sign of the end of this
international order and who knows what that will
lead to."</p>
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