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</font><h1 class="gmail-reader-title">Decriminalizing Abortion, the Case of Vannesa Rosales: A Conversation with Venus Faddoul</h1>
<div class="gmail-credits gmail-reader-credits">By Cira Pascual Marquina – February 19, 2021</div></div>
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<div class="gmail-moz-reader-content gmail-reader-show-element"><div id="gmail-readability-page-1" class="gmail-page"><div><p><em>Venus Faddoul is a lawyer and the director of <a href="https://100estrogeno.org/">100% Estrógeno</a>,
an organization that focuses on women’s rights in Venezuela. Today
Faddoul forms part of Vannesa Rosales’ defense team. Rosales is a young
teacher and activist now under house arrest for allegedly assisting a
13-year-old rape victim to abort. Many Venezuelan feminists hope that
her case will open the path for decriminalizing abortion in the country.
In this interview, the lawyer talks to us about Venezuela’s legislation
regarding abortion and explains Rosales’ case. </em></p>
<p><strong>What can you tell us about Venezuela’s legislation regarding
abortion which, as we understand, dates back to the late 19th century?</strong></p>
<p>Venezuela’s legislation is indeed backward. The regulation that
criminalizes of abortion dates back to Venezuela’s 1873 Penal Code, and
it hardly changed throughout the 20th century. In fact, there were no
amendments made in the last reform to the Penal Code in 2005.</p>
<p>In other words, our legislation regarding the voluntary interruption
of pregnancy dates back to the 19th century! This legal framework
clashes with international agreements, treaties, and conventions that
defend and protect human rights in general and women’s sexual and
reproductive rights in particular. In fact, the current Penal Code
clashes with agreements that Venezuela has signed and ratified,
including <a href="https://www.oas.org/en/MESECVI/convention.asp">Belém do Pará</a> and <a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/cedaw.aspx">CEDAW</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Are there any circumstances that would allow for a legal abortion?</strong></p>
<p>The Penal Code states that a pregnancy can only be legally terminated
if the doctor determines that the woman's life is in imminent danger.
In such a case, only the doctor can decide to proceed. A pregnant minor
cannot have an abortion, a woman who has been raped cannot have an
abortion, a pregnancy resulting from incest cannot be terminated, and
there are no economic or psychological conditions under which an
abortion can go forward legally. Basically, a pregnant woman cannot
legally decide to terminate a pregnancy in Venezuela.</p>
<p><strong>If a woman is convicted for carrying out an abortion, what is the sentence?</strong></p>
<p>According to the Penal Code, it can be six months to five years in prison.</p>
<p><strong>Venezuela is going through a profound crisis. What are the
consequences of criminalizing abortion on women in general, and
especially the poorest women in our society?</strong></p>
<p>All Venezuelan women are affected by the legal norms regarding
abortion, but of course, poor women are the most vulnerable. They cannot
afford contraceptives, which have a monthly cost of up to ten minimum
wages, and it is even harder for them to interrupt a pregnancy in a safe
way, because purchasing the pills on the black market is exorbitantly
expensive. Obviously, women with economic resources have access to both
contraceptive methods and safer mechanisms to terminate a pregnancy, but
they too face an unregulated underground market.</p>
<p>Poor women confront very dangerous situations: their health and even
their lives are in danger, and the state limits their reproductive
autonomy. Poor women are the big victims of this situation: if an
abortion is needed, they have to resort to obscure methods that endanger
their physical integrity. In addition to that, because these operations
are clandestine, that means that those with mercantile interests will
most often extort huge amounts of money from women.</p>
<p>In fact, even those women who have resources and have access to a
private medical service face risks. Criminalization imposes
clandestinity, which affects the safety and autonomy (and therefore
human rights) of all women. How do we learn about the profile of the
doctors offering the service in an opaque and unregulated subworld? Are
they really going to help us? What are their economic interests? Will
they continue to accompany us, if a problem comes up?</p>
<p>The situation is very complex for all women, but again it is
important to emphasize that those on the margins are much more
vulnerable: it affects their physical and psychological integrity.
Moreover, it is no secret that death is a possible outcome for women who
are forced to carry out clandestine abortions.</p>
<p>Abortion is criminalized regardless of a woman’s class. If a woman is
accused of voluntarily terminating a pregnancy – and if it can be
proven – she will be prosecuted.</p>
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<p><a href="https://venezuelanalysis.com/files/images/%5Bsite-date-yyyy%5D/%5Bsite-date-mm%5D/vannesa_venus.png" title="Left: Vannesa Rosales. Right: Venus Faddoul with Vannesa Rosales. (Archive)"><img src="https://venezuelanalysis.com/files/styles/full_content/public/images/%5Bsite-date-yyyy%5D/%5Bsite-date-mm%5D/vannesa_venus.png?itok=sufaWaLc" alt="Left: Vannesa Rosales. Right: Venus Faddoul with Vannesa Rosales. (Archive)" title="" style="margin-right: 0px;" width="426" height="213"></a></p><div>
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<p><strong><a href="https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/15092">Vannesa Rosales was detained in October 2020</a> for allegedly assisting a very poor 13-year-old girl to terminate her pregnancy. Tell us about her case.</strong></p>
<p>Vannesa was arrested on October 12, 2020, through a highly
questionable procedure: the police stormed into her home without a
search warrant. She then spent nearly three months in the jails of the
Mérida CICPC [criminalistic and forensic police force]. While she was
locked up there, she was not able to talk to us [the defense], and she
was only allowed to meet with her family twice. Following a January 8
communique that was subscribed by more than 200 organizations, both
national and international, she was granted house arrest.</p>
<p>As you mentioned, Vannesa is accused of assisting in the termination of a pregnancy of a 13-year-old girl who had been raped.</p>
<p>Vannesa's case is very complex. From the moment I was called to
defend her, it was clear to me that the case could represent a turning
point. It has all the ingredients to put the issue in the public arena
and to shake the foundations of Venezuelan conservatism and false
feminist politics.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, over the past few years, there has been no real policy
plan to promote gender equity. Some steps were taken under Chávez's
mandate. However, those were the unilateral decisions of a single
person, and they did not change the existing conservative and misogynist
structures.</p>
<p>Here, what should have been a trial for the rape of a 13-year-old
girl turned into an indictment for assisting an abortion. In fact, as
far as we know, the rapist remains free!</p>
<p>In all of this, the most infuriating issue is that the authorities,
even though they were aware of what was happening and knew that a human
rights defender [Vannesa Rosales] was locked up, did not intervene. The
perspective of the police and the judicial system is sexist and
patriarchal. State institutions are ignorant of women's human rights.</p>
<p>What is worse, they didn’t even have enough empathy to consider what
would have happened if their own teen daughter became pregnant as an
outcome of rape. They applied the full weight of the law for two
reasons: because this 13-year-old girl and her mother were vulnerable
people who had no support, and because they saw an opportunity for
extortion.</p>
<p>Thus, the key elements in Vannesa's case are legal and social ones.
At the end of the day, we are once again talking about the
criminalization of poverty. Right now Vannesa is under house arrest,
pending a preliminary hearing.</p>
<p><strong>Could you explain the case in greater detail? Can Vannesa give declarations, and are the legal proceedings on schedule?</strong></p>
<p>In principle, Vannesa could give declarations, but given the
complexities of the case, anything could harm her defense. Additionally,
the legal proceedings are under judicial seal for now, so we cannot
give many details about the case.</p>
<p>However, I can offer a brief history. Vannesa was arrested on October
12, and on November 30 the Attorney General's Office filed the
accusation. After the accusation has been submitted, the law establishes
a 20-day statutory period – 15 days plus 5 days extension if necessary –
to proceed with the preliminary hearing. It is now mid-February and we
do not have a date for the preliminary hearing. Thus, Vannesa is facing
procedural delay.</p>
<p>As it turns out, we are in legal limbo: a Supreme Court’s communiqué
states that the time limits established by law do not apply because of
the Covid-19 quarantine, while another communiqué states the opposite.
Meanwhile, Vannesa is being detained and in a situation of huge legal
uncertainty.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, as a lawyer, I can tell you that procedural delay has
become all too common in Venezuela. The justice system is in crisis. In a
report that we put together about Vannesa’s case, we found at least
eight violations of due process and even breaches of the Constitution.
The problems that we face with her defense are not unique.</p>
<p>In any case, we are pressing for the preliminary hearing and working
on the defense strategy, which I cannot explain here for obvious
reasons.</p>
<p><strong>Who is Vannesa Rosales? What can you tell us about her life and work? </strong></p>
<p>Vannesa is a 31-year-old teacher. She studied pedagogy and committed
her life to education. For eight years now she has been working in the
Pueblo Nuevo <em>barrio</em> in Mérida, where she is a professor and the
coordinator of various “learning nuclei” for the Universidad
Territorial de Mérida. She focuses on reinserting children and adults
into education, both at the pre-university and university level.</p>
<p>Vannesa is also a committed activist and defender of women’s sexual and reproductive rights.</p>
<p><strong>The struggle for legalizing abortion has been going on for a
long time in Venezuela. However, Vannesa Rosales’ case has reactivated
people and movements here. It has the potential to bring together
diverse feminist organizations with one shared goal: the
decriminalization of abortion. What are your thoughts on this matter?</strong></p>
<p>We do think that Vannesa's case could mark a turning point, and we
are working to coordinate and connect the country’s feminist
organizations. Indeed, there are differences within the feminist
movement. We are diverse and that must make us stronger and more
resilient.</p>
<p>We must act as a bloc while we continue working each in our different
fronts and with our different positions. We have to recognize each
other in order to achieve unity and exercise effective pressure on
conservative factions, both governmental and non-governmental –
decriminalizing abortion is our common objective now.</p>
<p>Of course, if we succeed, it will be thanks to the foundations built
by the first generations who initiated the struggle for legalizing
abortion. In fact, we continue to learn from the feminist movements of
the 70s and 80s, and we are aware of the advanced position that the
Venezuelan Medical Federation held at one time.</p>
<p>This is a moment with great historical potential, a golden
opportunity. However, there is one caveat: we will only achieve our
objective if we all come together.</p>
<p>Vannesa's case has brought the issue of decriminalizing abortion into
the public arena. There are several factors here [that make it
especially important]: first, the particularities of the case; second,
the collective pressure exercised through social networks; and, third,
the media coverage, both here and abroad.</p>
<p>I am hopeful. For the first time, the different elements within the
feminist movement are coming together. We want Vannesa free, but this
struggle is larger and has historical proportions. The time is now: we
must defeat legislation that is backward when it comes to women’s sexual
and reproductive rights.</p>
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