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<h2><font size=3><b>Sunday, July 12, 2009<br><br>
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Indigenous Leader Berta Cáceres: "If the people didn't support him,
they wouldn't have had to carry out a coup"</a>
</b></h3><font size=3><b>Honduras Resists Exclusive Interview with Berta
Cáceres, Civil Council of Popular and Indigenous Organizations of
Honduras (COPINH)</b> <br>
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</a><b>Honduras Resists</b>: What is the state of resistance against the
coup d'etat after two weeks?<br><br>
<b>Berta Cáceres: </b>The resistance of the Honduran people has been firm
and heroic not just in Tegucigalpa but in all of the national territory.
Just today hundreds more friends came from the west from as far as 500
kilometers. In Olancho the army machine-gunned the tires of the buses
that were coming leaving the passengers to walk days to arrive in
Tegucigalpa. More and more people are arriving from all over, from every
state, from every region of the country each day. Today there were
marches in Olancho, Santa Bárbara, Cortés, Progreso, Tela, Comayagua,
Intibucá and many other places too. In the whole national territory this
resistance is growing. <br><br>
For its part, the army has had blockades all over the country. We have to
remember that we are confronting the ultra-right oligarchy not just from
Honduras, but from the whole continent wanting to impede all of the
processes of emancipation lead by the peoples of this continent. This
coup has not just been against the people of Honduras and against Zelaya
but against all of the peoples who share our dream of creating another
world, a world where people can count on the basic necessities of life, a
world with respect for human rights, with the right to popular
participation in the government.<br><br>
We have filled the plaza of the central park of Tegucigalpia several
times now. There are vigils honoring our fallen friend from Olancho, Isis
Obed Murillo. Next week we are taking three days to rejuvenate and
strengthen ourselves in preparation for an enormous action that same
week. We call once again on international solidarity to make itself
present in our country to testify to what is happening and monitor human
rights abuses. To the international organizations like the OAS and the UN
we are thankful for your resolutions but we need those resolutions to be
made concrete in our country. <br><br>
<b>HR: What is your perspective about the nature of the coup government?
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BC: </b>It must be highlighted that we are dealing with an ultra-right
and highly repressive government. The coup-makers include many
personalities well known for their role in death squads in past decades,
trained by the United States in the School of the Americas or School of
Assassins as we call it. The ultra-right mafias from all over the country
are here in the country. For example Robert Carmona, of the terrorist
anti-Cuban groups in Miami, brother of the de facto president of
Venezuela during the coup there, is in our country. Yesterday he was
meeting with the national congress. The coup-makers represent the richest
people of our country and of Latin America, who have maintained tight
relations with the CIA for decades. <br><br>
<b>HR: What are the objectives of the resistance movement?<br><br>
BC:</b> This struggle is not just for the restitution [of President
Zelaya] but for the concretization of a project of participatory
democracy, re-founding the country through a National Constitutional
Assembly. These are the major objectives of our resistance. One of the
main causes of the military coup was that the President was orienting
himself towards a process of consultation of the people for a new
Constitution that favors the people.<br><br>
But that cannot be achieved under the current de facto government. In
this moment there is tremendous repression of our freedom of expression,
of our mobilizations, we can't talk about the assembly on the radio. They
have cut off our voice. There is an aggressive and manipulative media
campaign carried out by the coup-makers who include Mr. Jorge Canahuati
Larach, owner of the two main newspapers in the country, La Prensa and El
Heraldo. So there can't be conditions for this process until we achieve
the restitution of our democracy. <br><br>
That's why the first objective of the resistance is to kick out the
coup-makers and reinstate the President and then have a Constitutional
Assembly that advances respect for diversity, recuperation of our
resources, protection of our biodiversity, indigenous autonomy, food
security, the rights of women, of young people, of all of the oppressed
sectors of the Honduran people.<br><br>
<b>HR: Explain more about the role of the media in this coup...<br><br>
BC: </b>Since before the coup the media for months and months had been
carrying out a media campaign to side-track the struggle for a
Constitutional Assembly, because the media belongs to those people who
fear losing their economic and political power in the country.<br><br>
The main myth that they have launched before the Honduran and
international public is the idea that the process of re-founding our
country, the dream of participatory democracy made concrete in the
proposal of the people for a national constitutional assembly, is just a
proposal of President Zelaya to stay in power. Re-election isn't for him
to decide but for the people. When he talked of the re-founding of the
country it wasn't about re-election but about the large social themes
already mentioned, the emancipation of our people in Honduras as part of
the emancipatory project of the continent.<br><br>
The media lies saying that he didn't have much support from the people.
That's not true, the coup happened because they knew that the people
support him and the proposal for a Constitutional Assembly. He had
achieved 70% popularity, never before had a president had that type of
support. He had more sympathy that the official candidates from the
parties in power. So that's why they had to carry out a coup. If the
people didn't support him they wouldn't have had to carry out a coup.
<br><br>
This coup goes beyond Honduras. The media of much of the continent spread
the same lies that the people don't support Zelaya, that the coup
happened because of a violation of the constitution, as if the de facto
government that is repressing us, cutting off our voices, killing and
jailing our people, imposing a state of siege, a curfew, freezing the
bank accounts of many people and organizations, and using the national
press as its own voice has anything to do with democracy.<br><br>
<b>HR: In your opinion what was the role played by the U.S. government in
the coup?<br><br>
BC: </b>There were people from the CIA here the night before the coup.
They took them here under a huge security operation. The U.S. State
Department admits it met with the leaders of the coup a week beforehand.
We are clear that there is involvement of the ultra-right sector of the
U.S. government. I think that Barack Obama has a more open and
progressive mind, but of course the ultra-right and the military industry
in the U.S. still maintains collaborative relationships with the military
members that they trained and with the elite that has always been allied
with them. They decided to carry out a coup not just against Presidente
Zelay but against our processes of true integration of the peoples with
initiatives like ALBA. They decided to make a coup against the
emancipatory projects because of their fear of the participation of the
people. <br><br>
<b>HR: What acts of President Zelaya earned him so many enemies within
the army, the congress and the Supreme Court?<br><br>
</b>He didn't have a history of being a social struggler but as he
himself told us, since the beginning of the government he felt that the
powerful sectors were bothered because it wasn't as easy for them to
control him as it was with other politicians, they found themselves faced
with someone different who they thought was going to be more
manipulate-able. Since his first intervention he said key things like
that there would be no more concessions to mining companies, a promise
that he carried out, confronting the destruction and exploitation of our
natural resources for the benefit of transnational corporations. He also
intervened to stop the energy monopoly in our country, he has put
Honduras in PetroCaribe, he has moved towards the nationalization of the
gas storage tanks, which didn't succeed because of the judicial power
controlled by the vested interests. He integrated Honduras into the
Bolivarian Alternative of the Americas (ALBA), a different kind of
diplomatic project, based on solidarity and participation, which has
directly benefited the Honduran people. He has rejected many of the
recommendations of the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The teachers
law was approved contrary to the wishes of the IMF. He also raised the
minimum wage for workers, a reform really needed by the workers. That
same day the businessman filed 450 suits against him. He also rejected
the credentials of the gringo ambassador in solidarity with Bolivia in
the face of U.S. meddling in its internal affairs, demanding respect for
the Latin American economy. He has supported integration projects like a
common bank for Latin America, the consolidation of diplomatic relations
with Cuba, Venezuela, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.. During his presidency
medical and educational support from Cuba has increased. Now Micheletti
has made 350 Cuban teachers who were teaching literacy to the poorest
Hondurans leave the country and is threatening to kick out over 300 Cuban
doctors.<br><br>
But more than anything, the people have supported him because he's been
the only president willing to break with the traditional manipulation of
the Honduran oligarchy and listen to the alternative proposals of poor
people, of the social movement, of those who fight for the rights of
women, of the indigenous, of the workers, of the peasants, of all of the
sectors that until recently were completely excluded from national
politics, marginalized and forgotten about. We have advanced so much that
we can't give up this struggle for participatory democracy that opens
paths for profound changes to the conditions of our people.<br><br>
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