[News] British Detainee Says He Was Subjected to Torture

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Letter from Guantanamo: British Detainee Says He Was Subjected to Torture, 
Witnessed U.S. Soldiers Commit Murder

Tuesday, October 5th, 2004

In a rare uncensored letter from Guantanamo Bay, British detainee Moazzam 
Begg writes that he was tortured and abused by U.S soldiers during 
detention and that he witnessed U.S. soldiers murder two detainees in 
Afghanistan. We speak with president of the Center for Constitutional 
Rights, Michael Ratner. [includes rush transcript]

The Bush administration is arguing that the president can detain enemy 
combatants in Guantanamo Bay as long as necessary to protect national 
security and that they have no constitutional rights to hear charges 
against them.

Facing a deadline to give a federal judge some answers about 60 of the 
so-called enemy combatants held at the notorious the U.S. Navy base in 
Cuba, the government filed a 96-page response detailing the reasons it 
believes it doesn't need to explain why they were detained or how long they 
might be imprisoned. This according to the Washington Post.

More than 550 people have been held at Guantanamo without charge or trial 
for more than two years now.

Government lawyers wrote the detentions are "an integral and inexorable 
part of the Commander-in-Chief"s power to defend the nation and vanquish 
the enemy."

But the deputy commander of the joint task force that controls Guantanamo 
thinks otherwise. Brigadier General Martin Lucenti told the Financial Times 
"Most of [the detainees] weren't fighting. They were running. Even if 
somebody has been found to be an enemy combatant, many of them will be 
released because they will be of low intelligence value and low threat 

Either way, the Pentagon is planning to construct a permanent prison 
facility in Guantanamo - known as Camp Six. Some see it as a move to 
fortify the makeshift prison and ultimately place all remaining detainees 
in permanent structures.

One of those remaining detainees is British citizen Moazzam Begg. He was 
detained in Pakistan in 2001 and has been imprisoned without charge or 
trial in Guanatanmo after being transferred there from a base in 
Afghanistan. Since arriving in Guantanamo, Begg has had no contact with 
fellow prisoners and has been kept in solitary confinement for over 600 
days. Last April, his father Azmat Begg joined us in our studio to talk 
about his son's imprisonment. Here is some of what he had to say:

    * Azmat Begg, father of Moazzam Begg speaking on Democracy Now! April 

Well, in Moazzam Begg's latest letter revealed last Friday, he says he was 
tortured and abused during detention and that he witnessed U.S. soldiers 
kill two men in Afghanistan.

In the uncensored letter, Begg protested his innocence of any crime and 
demanded to know the reason for his detention. He said he was denied 
natural light and fresh food, had been held in solitary confinement, and 
was forced to sign and initial documents presented to him by U.S. 
officials. He also said he was physically abused, stripped and paraded in 
front of cameras held by U.S. personnel.

The letter came past the usual U.S. military censors, but it was the first 
communication from Moazzam Begg that was entirely unclassified. It was 
dated July 12 2004, and addressed to the military command at Guantanamo 
Bay. In it Begg requests that it be copied to his lawyers and US and 
British authorities.

    * Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights. He 
is author of Guantanamo: What the World Should Know.


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AMY GOODMAN: We're joined now by Michael Ratner, president of the Center 
for Constitutional Rights. He is author of the book, Guantanamo: What the 
World Should Know. Welcome to Democracy Now!, Michael.

MICHAEL RATNER: Thank you for having me, Amy.

AMY GOODMAN: How significant is this letter?

MICHAEL RATNER: Well, it's the first letter that we have gotten that is 
uncensored, that charges torture, that he saw deaths. So it's very 
significant, because you can say what's happening to Moazzam Begg or what 
happened to him -- the isolation, the torture, the beatings -- is very 
likely happening to many, many others in Guantanamo. So it's extremely 
significant. The reason it got out is not chance. It was because Moazzam 
Begg is the first person who has actually had a lawyer go down to see him. 
We got a court order allowing a lawyer. He's, since the Supreme Court case, 
the first one, the only one so far. Shortly before she went to Guantanamo, 
she got this letter. So, they obviously realized, and as time goes on, as 
we get lawyer by lawyer down there, I think we'll get more and more stories 
like Moazzam Begg's.

AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to go back to last April, when we were joined in the 
studio by Moazzam Begg's father, Azmat Begg. He talked about his son's 

AZMAT BEGG: He was captured from Islamabad, which is the capital of 
Pakistan, where he was staying with his wife and children, very small 
children, starting from the age of one, two, and four or five. He had three 
children at that time.

AMY GOODMAN: And where was he taken? When was this?

AZMAT BEGG: Well, that's about two years now, so over two years now. He was 
taken from his house in front of his daughter and his wife, and two 
American soldiers assisted by two Pakistani soldiers pulled him out, 
bundled him up, and put him into the trunk of the car, and took away. He 
rang me up from the trunk of the car -- possibly he had mobile -- and he 
told me in the middle of the night, that he had been arrested. I said, 
"What for?" It was very strange noise. I couldn't believe. He said, "I have 
been arrested, daddy." I said, "Why?" He said, "I don't know. They are 
taking me somewhere which I do not know. Please take care of my wife and 
children, who are in Islamabad."

AMY GOODMAN: Where were you?

AZMAT BEGG: I was in England. I was in England. I was half asleep.

AMY GOODMAN: And so he was taken to Guantanamo.

AZMAT BEGG: No, they didn't take him straight away to Guantanamo. They took 
him to Afghanistan and kept him in a province called Kandahar for a month 
or so and then they transferred him to another place in Afghanistan, which 
is known as Bagram Air Base, where he was badly treated, very badly treated.

AMY GOODMAN: How do you know?

AZMAT BEGG: Because I received letters. Through the Red Cross. The Red 
Cross people came down to me to give me the letters. They were having 
correspondence with him through Red Cross all the time. Then when a little 
bit of noise was raised in the U.K. they transferred him to Guantanamo Bay. 
He was badly treated. He was deprived of proper food. He was deprived of 
natural light, sun, moon, or anything. He said that I haven't seen sun, 
moon, or sky for the last whole one year except for two minutes. Being 
treated like an animal, they pulled me and push me into cages, and that's 
how I am here now. At times I don't get food. My clothes are torn. They 
don't care. And I don't know whom to go to.

AMY GOODMAN: Have you spoken to him?


AMY GOODMAN: He writes you letters?

AZMAT BEGG: He wrote his letters when he was in Kandahar by Bagram and he 
also wrote letters from Guantanamo Bay, when he was transferred.

AMY GOODMAN: Azmat Begg, he is the father of Moazzam Begg, lives in 
Britain, has been campaigning to have his son released from Guantanamo. 
Michael Ratner, yesterday the U.S. government filed a brief. Can you talk 
about the administration arguing the president can detain what he calls 
"enemy combatants" as long as necessary?

MICHAEL RATNER: It's remarkable. The Center for Constitutional Rights won 
this case June 28th of this year. The Supreme Court said clearly, they have 
to justify detentions on an individual basis, and people have 
Constitutional rights in Guantanamo. The government is treating the Supreme 
Court decision essentially as a suggestion. They're saying, we can ignore 
it. It's incredible. I mean, it's real lawlessness at the most basic level. 
Everything we have gotten in these cases, whether it's the letter that was 
released from Moazzam Begg or any detainee out, has just been an uphill 
battle with the government, inch by inch, but I can tell you, I think we 
are going to eventually close that camp.

AMY GOODMAN: Even though they're talking about setting up a new one called 
Camp Six.

MICHAEL RATNER: It's illegality after illegality. They are not living in a 
lawless zone any longer since the Supreme Court decision. It may take us 
time, it may take us pushes by other governments -- and so far, I hope they 
do that in Britain and other places -- to eventually say, this is something 
from another generation. This will be looked like one day like we now look 
at the Japanese concentration camps during the Second World War that were 
in the United States.

AMY GOODMAN: Some of the people have been released. How many?

MICHAEL RATNER: I think a couple of hundred have been released. A bunch 
were released before we won in the Supreme Court as a way of trying to 
influence the Supreme Court. A number have been released after that. Once 
again, the government is doing it slowly, because I think they don't want 
the total embarrassment of understanding they are running a camp that's 
completely irrelevant to the war on terror.

AMY GOODMAN: Michael Ratner is author of Guantanamo: What the World Should 
Know. We're going to go to break. When we come back, there is a new play in 
New York that opened in London. It is called Guantanamo: Honor Bound to 
Defend Freedom, based on the actual transcripts of prisoners' letters from 
Guantanamo, as well as their loved ones outside. We are going to hear a 
clip of the actor playing Moazzam Begg, reading what he has had to say. 
Then we go to Bishop Tutu who performed in this play this weekend. I had a 
chance to interview him afterwards. Stay with us. [break]

AMY GOODMAN: Michael Ratner, our guest. He's president of the Center for 
Constitutional Rights, author of the book, Guantanamo: What the World 
Should Know. Why do we know so much about Moazzam Begg, in particular?

MICHAEL RATNER: Well, two reasons. One is his father has been very public 
and was actually in touch with him at the moment he was arrested in 
Pakistan. Moazzam Begg was put into the boot of a car or trunk of a car. He 
had his cell phone with him. He was able to call his father from the cell 
phone and tell him what happened. Plus his wife and child witnessed 
American and Pakistani agents coming into his house in Pakistan and taking 
him away. Then we have gotten a couple of letters. We got one early letter 
that Azmat Begg described, where he said he had been in Bagram for eleven 
months and can only see the sun and stars in this infamous underground 
facility in Bagram, where a lot of bad torture has apparently gone on. 
Plus, now we have this newest letter from him, but again, we have the 
newest letter only because his lawyer, Gita Gutierrez, was recently in 
Guantanamo, and because of that -- she was the first person there -- 
because of that, the government, I think, felt forced to have to release 
this letter to her.

AMY GOODMAN: What is he charged with?

MICHAEL RATNER: Well, Amy, he is charged with nothing. Zero. There has 
never been a charge against him, despite that. When he got to Guantanamo, 
he was put into special isolation camp, called Camp Echo. And presumably, 
and it's a guess, but he may have been put there because he actually 
witnessed, according to this last letter, as he says partially witnessed 
the deaths of two people in Afghanistan. He may be being kept there because 
they don't want him telling that story. And it's only, as I said, only 
because we are finally opening up Guantanamo, finally, that we are getting 
any information like this.


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